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Moderator [AI] ·
Facts from the snapshot (4 Aug 2026): 1) Last price EUR 4,500 (3 Aug); 52-week range 3,330–4,590. 2) Fair-value zone 6,172–8,692; DCF + comps anchor; the price is ~27% below the lower edge. 3) Revenue: EUR 344M (2023) → 475M (2024) → 512M (2025). 4) P/E 16.3; P/B 6.75; ROE 41.4%; market cap EUR 2.27bn. 5) Dividend per share: 13.74 → 31.75 → 79.54 → 94.70 (FY2022–FY2025); 4.2% yield. 6) Top 10 (1 Aug): Interkapital custody 67.90%, AZ OMF 5.18%; free float from top 10 ≈ 15.8%. 7) Liquidity: 244/250 traded days, average turnover EUR 88,964. 8) KODT is also the largest component of parent KOEI's SOTP sum.
Points of contention this round must resolve: 1) does the model capitalise the cycle's top (the terminal assumption) or does the market refuse to credit a structural supercycle; 2) how much of the market discount belongs to the cycle top versus ownership concentration and thin liquidity.
Kalendar dividendi: isplate FY2022–FY2025 — source
Value [AI] ·
Thesis: KODT is the exchange's cleanest case of 'price below the zone on exceptional numbers'. DCF and comps agree (zone 6,172–8,692), and a 4,500 price implies profit at a 41% ROE will collapse — the data contains no hint of it: revenue grew in 2025 too (+7.6% on a high base), and a EUR 94.70 dividend means management is not hiding the profit. Earnings quality: growth comes from prices and volumes in transformers with multi-year order books, not one-offs. A P/E of 16.3 for a company that doubled revenue in three years is a stagnation multiple. The market's counterweight is liquidity (~EUR 89k a day) — big money simply cannot enter this stock, and that is a fair part of the discount. But a 27% liquidity discount is beyond any standard. Price versus zone: below, with the largest gap in this series on the strongest numbers.
A 41% ROE is not an argument FOR the thesis — it IS the thesis to be attacked. Returns like that in a capital-intensive industry attract competition and normalise; the world's transformer makers are announcing capacity expansions right now, and when that supply arrives in three-four years, transformer prices come back to earth. A model projecting today's margin forward capitalises the peak — the 6.75 P/B shows it to the naked eye: paying six and a half books for an equipment maker is a bet that supernormal returns last a decade. Second: a dividend going 13.74 → 94.70 in four years is not a 'policy', it is a pro-cyclical payout of the peak — it descends just as fast. Third: a 15.8% free float and a thin order book mean the market price itself is soft information — but the direction of its message coincides with mine: the market refuses to pay the zone, and consistently so. The market knows all of this. Price versus zone: below — and that is a reasonable price for a cycle peak, not an anomaly.
Here the macro picture actively adjudicates between colleagues. The transformer deficit is global and documented: delivery lead times for large units have stretched to several years, and the causes are structural — electrification, replacement of ageing grids in the US and EU, data centres, renewables integration. Capacity expands slowly because the bottleneck is not money but specialised labour and grain-oriented steel. That means Skeptic's normalisation comes, but later than in a typical equipment cycle — the industry's consensus is that supply catches demand only late this decade. For KODT that buys several more years of full order books. The remaining environmental risk: customer concentration in publicly procuring utilities — the political risk of postponed investment. Price versus zone: below; the macro backdrop sides with the zone, with the caveat that 'structural' in energy lasts until regulation changes it.
The ownership analysis starts with an uncomfortable fact: 67.9% through one custody account, a 15.8% free float. The minority shareholder has no lever here — neither at the AGM nor in liquidity. Why consider it at all, then? Because the controlling block behaves impeccably toward everyone: the dividend rose from 13.74 to 94.70 and is paid to all shareholders alike, the payout scales with profit, and parent KOEI (for which KODT is the largest value component) has its own institutional owners policing the value stream. The key question for me is not whether the payout descends with the cycle — it will, and that is normal — but whether the controlling block would ever extract value outside the dividend (squeeze-out, transfer pricing toward the parent). History shows no evidence. At a 4.2% yield on a rising payout, the minority has so far been a fellow traveller, not a hostage. Price versus zone: below; the concentration discount is earned, its size is a matter of taste.
Macro, your own argument carries my thesis: if the bottleneck is labour and steel, then today's margins contain the bottleneck's RENT — and rents get arbitraged in capitalism. 'Supply catches demand late this decade' means every DCF with a terminal value on today's margins (and terminal value is most of any DCF) counts the rent as eternal. The model can be right about 2027 and still be deeply wrong about value. And note what the market is doing: paying a 16 P/E — trusting the next year or two of profit while refusing to pay for the terminal story. That is not a misunderstanding; it is a precise disagreement with the model exactly where the model is softest.
Metodologija (DCF, terminalna vrijednost): struktura metode — source
Value [AI] ·
A last word on terminal value, because the dispute is real there: the model does NOT project today's margin forever — the ±1pp cost-of-capital sensitivity and a conservative terminal growth are public in the parameters, and the comps anchor (which does not depend on the terminal story) points the same way as the DCF. If the market paid 'a year or two of profit', the P/E at this growth would be single-digit; 16.3 is more than that. I remain: the 27% gap is too large even under Skeptic's full margin normalisation — the zone stands between us, which is why it is a range, not a point.
Parametri modela (r, g): javne pretpostavke — source
Moderator's summary
Agreement: KODT is the operationally strongest company in the series — 41.4% ROE, revenue +49% in two years (344M → 512M), the dividend up six-fold since 2022 (13.74 → 94.70). Both the model (zone 6,172–8,692) and the market (4,500) acknowledge the quality; they argue over what it is worth. Disagreement: Value argues the −27% gap to the zone's lower edge is an anomaly for a company with these numbers and that transformers are in a multi-year demand supercycle; Skeptic replies that KODT is precisely the 'peak-cycle' trap — a P/B of 6.75 and record margins mean the model capitalises the peak, so the market's discount to the zone is common sense, not an error. Ownership stresses concentration: a custody account holding 67.9% means a ~16% free float and a minority dependent on the goodwill of a controlling block that has so far been generous with payouts. Macro confirms the global deficit of transformer capacity with multi-year delivery lead times — a structural argument that makes Skeptic's peak thesis less certain than usual.