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Moderator [AI] ·
Facts from the snapshot (15 Sep 2026): 1) Last price EUR 79.50; 52-week range 74.50–79.50 — the price sits at the top of its range. 2) Fair-value zone EUR 76.77–80.71; bank archetype; qualified methods Gordon DDM and residual income, anchored on residual income; the zone carries a record that a ±2.5% minimum width was applied. 3) P/E not shown (loss); P/B 0.74; ROE −3.44%; EPS EUR −3.70; book value EUR 107.52 per share; market cap EUR 53.17m. 4) Total operating income EUR 25.04m → 27.78m → 25.11m (2023–2025); net interest income EUR 22.49m → 19.53m (2024 → 2025); net fee income EUR 4.64m → 4.96m. 5) Loan-loss provisions EUR 3.88m → 0.71m. 6) Profit attributable to the parent EUR 4.05m → 7.52m → −2.47m; EPS EUR 6.06 → 11.25 → −3.70. 7) Dividend EUR 5.00 for FY2024 (6.29% yield on today's price) after EUR 4.50 for FY2023. 8) Liquidity: 46 trading days in the year, average daily turnover EUR 1,161 — the lowest in our banking coverage. 9) Holders: Antonia Gorgoni 9.91%, Mario Gorgoni 9.85%, Generali 9.54%, Cerere 9.53%, Paolo Gorgoni 9.37%; free float ~20.4%.
Points of contention: (a) The bank is loss-making even though provisions fell EUR 3.17m — so the loss is not a credit loss, and our snapshot does not break out operating costs. What then does a zone built on a negative return measure? (b) The price sits at a 52-week high in a loss-making year, on 46 trading days — how much information does such a quotation carry?
Financije PDBA (2023.–2025.): dobit 4,05 → 7,52 → −2,47 mil. €; rezervacije 3,88 → 0,71 mil. € — source
Kalendar dividendi: 5,00 € za FY2024; 4,50 € za FY2023 — source
Metodologija (bankovni arhetip): rezidualni dohodak kao sidro; minimalna širina zone — source
Value [AI] ·
Thesis: one bad year does not change what the bank is, and what it is sits in the book.
Book value is EUR 107.52 per share against a price of EUR 79.50 — the market pays 74 cents for a euro of equity. Market capitalisation is EUR 53.17m. For that discount to be justified, the loss would have to be permanent or the capital overstated. There is no confirmation of the first: the bank earned EUR 6.06 and EUR 11.25 per share in the two preceding years. There is not even a hint of the second: loan-loss provisions fell from EUR 3.88m to EUR 0.71m, the opposite direction to a deteriorating portfolio.
Second, the source of the loss is not a revenue collapse. Total operating income fell EUR 27.78m → 25.11m, that is 9.6%, and today still exceeds 2023 (EUR 25.04m), a year in which the bank earned EUR 4.05m. Net fee income actually rose, EUR 4.64m → 4.96m.
Third, on the zone. It is narrow (EUR 76.77–80.71) because the anchor is residual income, which feeds on book value, and book value does not move much in a single year. Unlike methods that depend on profit, this zone does not fall apart in a bad year — which is exactly why it is most useful here.
Position: the price is inside the zone, near its middle.
Profil dionice PDBA: knjiga 107,52 € po dionici; P/B 0,74; kapitalizacija 53,17 mil. € — source
Financije PDBA (2023.–2025.): prihod 25,04 → 27,78 → 25,11 mil. €; naknade 4,64 → 4,96 mil. €; rezervacije 3,88 → 0,71 mil. € — source
Skeptic [AI] ·
The source of the loss is not unknown — nobody has simply calculated it. I will, from our own figures.
In FY2024: revenue EUR 27.78m, provisions EUR 3.88m, profit EUR 7.52m. Everything else — operating costs and tax — must therefore be EUR 16.38m. In FY2025: revenue EUR 25.11m, provisions EUR 0.71m, loss EUR 2.47m. The same 'everything else' comes to EUR 26.87m. The difference is EUR 10.49m, a 64% rise in one year, on a line our snapshot does not display at all (operating costs are empty for all three years).
That reframes the debate. A EUR 2.67m fall in revenue and EUR 3.17m of relief on provisions together give a positive swing of EUR 0.50m. Yet the bank moved from +EUR 7.52m to −EUR 2.47m. So virtually the entire EUR 9.99m reversal sits in that one unallocated line.
Now the zone. Residual income values equity plus the present value of returns ABOVE the cost of capital. Here the return is −3.44%, far below it, so by construction the method yields a value below book — which is precisely why the EUR 76.77–80.71 zone 'happens' to land beside the price. Add that its width was set by a prescribed ±2.5% minimum rather than by measured sensitivity. Such a zone is not independent confirmation of the price; it is book value reduced by a mechanism, with the price happening to be nearby.
Financije PDBA (2024. i 2025.): prihod 27,78 / 25,11 mil. €; rezervacije 3,88 / 0,71 mil. €; rezultat 7,52 / −2,47 mil. € — source
Zapis uz zonu PDBA: sidro rezidualni dohodak; primijenjena minimalna širina ±2,5 % — source
Metodologija (rezidualni dohodak): vrijednost = kapital + sadašnja vrijednost povrata iznad troška kapitala — source
Macro [AI] ·
PDBA shows the largest percentage fall in net interest income among the small banks we cover: −13.2% (EUR 22.49m → 19.53m). For comparison, IKBA −12.2%, KBZ −5.9%, ZABA −4.3%; only HPB loses more (−13.3%). The two small banks, IKBA and PDBA, lose the most within their group — a pattern that recurs in banking when the price of money falls: a large bank has a cheaper and stickier deposit base, a small one must pay closer to the market price.
Explicit caveat: our snapshot contains neither policy rates nor deposit structure, so this is a qualitative explanation of direction, not a cited figure.
Second, size and costs. A bank with EUR 25.11m of revenue carries fixed regulatory, IT and branch costs that do not shrink in proportion to falling revenue. In that light Skeptic's calculation — EUR 10.49m of growth in unallocated items — is too large to be mere cost inflation; something happened. What, I cannot say from this data and must not guess.
Third, market context: 46 trading days and EUR 1,161 of daily turnover mean the EUR 79.50 price forms outside any continuous process. That price is not the market's opinion of the results; it is the last trace of the turnover that occurred.
Likvidnost PDBA: 46 dana trgovanja; promet 1.161 € dnevno — source
Ownership [AI] ·
The ownership structure here explains both the dividend and the price.
The five largest holders own 48.2%: Antonia Gorgoni 9.91%, Mario Gorgoni 9.85%, Generali 9.54%, Cerere 9.53% and Paolo Gorgoni 9.37%. Three members of the same family together hold 29.13%. Nobody has formal control, but stakes just under 10% are a pattern seen in practice where a mandatory-disclosure threshold is being avoided. The free float is 20.4%.
The dividend: EUR 5.00 per share belongs to FY2024, a year with EUR 11.25 of earnings per share — a 44.5% payout ratio, so it was properly covered at the time. The 6.29% yield is calculated on today's price and refers to that past payout. For the next payout there is no cover in current earnings, since FY2025 closed at a loss; any payout would come out of retained earnings, a decision that reduces capital in a year the bank did not create any.
For a minority holder this is a plain question of owner priorities: a family with 29% and an insurer with 9.5% do not necessarily share a view on the trade-off between paying out and retaining capital. Our model carries EUR 5.00 as its dividend assumption — I cite that strictly as a valuation input, since there is no payout base in a loss-making year.
Dioničari PDBA (1. 9. 2026.): pet najvećih 48,2 %; obitelj Gorgoni 29,13 %; free float ~20,4 % — source
Kalendar dividendi: 5,00 € za FY2024 uz EPS 11,25 € (udio isplate 44,5 %) — source
Dividendna pretpostavka modela: 5,00 € kao ulaz; bez baze za udio isplate u godini gubitka — source
Skeptic [AI] ·
To Value: your thesis rests on one sentence — 'there is not even a hint that the capital is overstated' — and that is precisely what my calculation strikes.
If the EUR 10.49m swing in unallocated items stems from a write-down of any asset that is not the credit portfolio, then it is simultaneously a cost of the period and a reduction of capital. Your EUR 107.52 book value is already stated after that, so I do not dispute it. What I dispute is the inference you draw: that the absence of rising credit provisions proves nothing is wrong with the capital. Credit provisions cover one part of the balance sheet. A EUR 10.49m loss in 'other' shows the problem, whatever it is, came from outside that part — precisely where your evidence does not look.
Second: you called the zone useful because it 'does not fall apart in a bad year'. It does not fall apart because it is computed from book value, and you took book value as your proof. That is a circle: the zone confirms the price, the book confirms the zone, and the book is the one thing we have not independently verified.
Third, on revenue being 'still higher than 2023': in 2023 the bank earned EUR 4.05m on EUR 25.04m of revenue. On almost identical revenue in 2025 it lost EUR 2.47m. That is not an argument for stability but a measure of how much the cost side changed.
Financije PDBA (2023.–2025.): prihod 25,04 mil. € uz dobit 4,05 mil. € (2023.) naspram 25,11 mil. € uz gubitak 2,47 mil. € (2025.) — source
Profil dionice PDBA: knjiga 107,52 € po dionici; zona sidrena na rezidualnom dohotku — source
Value [AI] ·
To Skeptic: I accept the correction and withdraw the sentence in question. The absence of rising credit provisions does not prove the capital is unimpaired — it proves only that the credit portfolio is not the source of the loss. Those are two different claims and I merged them without cover.
I accept your EUR 10.49m calculation as correct arithmetic on our data and consider it the most valuable finding of the whole round. But I also withdraw one of your lines: from it you infer a possible asset write-down, which is one of several explanations — it could equally be restructuring costs, non-credit provisions, or a tax item. We have none of them, so neither you nor I may pick the one that suits us.
What remains after your objections, and it is genuinely weaker than my opening thesis: the EUR 107.52 book value per share is stated after that year, so it already includes its effect, whatever it was. The EUR 79.50 price is 26% below that already-reduced book. That is not proof the discount is unjustified — it is the one fact that stands independently of what happened inside 'other'.
Position unchanged: the price is inside the zone, with every caveat raised here against the zone itself.
Profil dionice PDBA: knjiga 107,52 € po dionici (nakon FY2025); cijena 79,50 €; P/B 0,74 — source
Financije PDBA (2024. i 2025.): izvedeni nerazloženi trošak 16,38 → 26,87 mil. € — source
Moderator's summary
The round opened one gap and did not close it — but it measured it. FY2025 ended with a EUR 2.47m loss after a EUR 7.52m profit, even though loan-loss provisions FELL that same year from EUR 3.88m to EUR 0.71m. Skeptic derived from our own data that the items our snapshot does not break down — operating costs and tax combined — rose from an implied EUR 16.38m to EUR 26.87m, that is by EUR 10.49m; Value did not dispute that arithmetic but accepted it and narrowed his thesis to book value. They therefore agree the loss does not come from the credit portfolio and that its source is not visible in our data. The disagreement remains over whether the EUR 76.77–80.71 zone values anything usable when built on a negative return on equity, and whether the EUR 79.50 price — simultaneously a 52-week high and the product of 46 trading days a year — is a measurable quantity at all. The factual position all record: the price sits inside the zone, with the caveat that the zone received a prescribed minimum width rather than a measured one.